几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量  


返回   几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量 » 三维空间:产品设计或CAX软件使用 » CAD设计 » 产品功能分析
用户名
密码
注册 帮助 会员 日历 银行 搜索 今日新帖 标记论坛为已读


 
 
主题工具 搜索本主题 显示模式
旧 2009-09-10, 12:36 PM   #1
huangyhg
超级版主
 
huangyhg的头像
 
注册日期: 04-03
帖子: 18592
精华: 36
现金: 249466 标准币
资产: 1080358888 标准币
huangyhg 向着好的方向发展
默认 masonry diaphragm aspect ratio

masonry diaphragm aspect ratio
we are adding a 90' long x 25' wide connector between two warehouses. there will be two 90' long, 12" thick reinforced masonry walls. the roof will consist of 25' long joists spaced at 6' on center with 18ga type b metal roof deck. the 18ga metal roof deck will be tied into the precast concrete shear walls of the existing warehouses.
i have a 90'x25' metal deck diaphragm which works for strength and deflection (36/7 puddle welds with #10 sidelaps at 12"). this diaphragm length-to-width ratio exceeds ibc table 2109.2.1.2 which states the maximum length to width ratio is 2:1 between masonry shear walls. but, my connector building is 90' between precast concrete shear walls (we are not adding 25' long masonry shear walls at each end). so, am i ok here? am i missing something? thanks for the input.
check out our whitepaper library.
your situation is certainly open to interpretation with shear walls of two different materials like that. i would suspect that the intent of the ibc maximum allowable diaphragm aspect ratios is to limit out of plane wall forces and effects due to large diaphragm deflections and perhaps chord forces. personally, i would satisfy the letter of the code requirements with an intermediate 25' shear wall or provide pc or tilt up wall (non-cmu) wall system on your 90' sides.
are you going to allow thermal movement between the infill structure and the existing buildings? given the potential for an expansion joint and having to analysis existing structures for new lateral loads and detailing requirements, you may wish to consider providing a completely separate lateral system for your infill building.
with metal deck (per ibc table 2109.2.1.3) i would suspect that you still must maintain the 2:1 ratio regardless of what sort of orthogonal shearwalls you have.
since you violate the 2:1 with a 90:25 roof, i would think you simply have to leave 2109 (empirical design) and use 2107 or 2108.
thanks. i hear what you are saying about out of plane forces due to large diaphragm deflections. but i calculated a maximum diaphragm deflection of 0.164" at the midpoint (45' from end). this seems very small to me. the owner wants room to operate forklifts thru the connector, so adding a shear wall at midpoint is not going to work. i thought of adding a rigid steel frame at the midpoint, but feel that it might not do anything, since it would be so flexible compared to the masonry walls. masonry walls are being pursued because they would be much cheaper than precast or tilt wall in this situation. not sure if i can help the thermal expansion issues in this case. i guess i'd rather tie everything together for stability. the building is 90' x 25' x 35' tall.
by tieing in to the existing lateral structure, are the increased forces below the limits of 1614.1.1 of the ibc?
if the above is a problem, could you provide isolation joints at each end of your connector, and provide a series of steel portal frames along the length of the connector?
why are you looking at emperical design?
agree with haynewp - that's my point above - get out of 2109 and simply design your fairly straightforward walls with 2107 or 2108.
__________________
借用达朗贝尔的名言:前进吧,你会得到信心!
[url="http://www.dimcax.com"]几何尺寸与公差标准[/url]
huangyhg离线中   回复时引用此帖
GDT自动化论坛(仅游客可见)
 


主题工具 搜索本主题
搜索本主题:

高级搜索
显示模式

发帖规则
不可以发表新主题
不可以回复主题
不可以上传附件
不可以编辑您的帖子

vB 代码开启
[IMG]代码开启
HTML代码关闭

相似的主题
主题 主题发起者 论坛 回复 最后发表
masonry cemen huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-10 12:28 PM
load spreading in wood diaphragm huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-10 11:11 AM
in enercalc masonry wall design, what is parapet heigh huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-09 07:17 PM
aspect ratio huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 01:38 PM
anchorage of masonry wall to wood diaphragm huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 12:02 PM


所有的时间均为北京时间。 现在的时间是 12:33 AM.


于2004年创办,几何尺寸与公差论坛"致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T | GPS研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量"。免责声明:论坛严禁发布色情反动言论及有关违反国家法律法规内容!情节严重者提供其IP,并配合相关部门进行严厉查处,若內容有涉及侵权,请立即联系我们QQ:44671734。注:此论坛须管理员验证方可发帖。
沪ICP备06057009号-2
更多