几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量  


返回   几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量 » 三维空间:产品设计或CAX软件使用 » CAD设计 » 产品功能分析
用户名
密码
注册 帮助 会员 日历 银行 搜索 今日新帖 标记论坛为已读


 
 
主题工具 搜索本主题 显示模式
旧 2009-09-08, 02:02 PM   #1
huangyhg
超级版主
 
huangyhg的头像
 
注册日期: 04-03
帖子: 18592
精华: 36
现金: 249466 标准币
资产: 1080358888 标准币
huangyhg 向着好的方向发展
默认 coring through floor slabs to post-tension

coring through floor slabs to post-tension
does anyone have any knowlege of coring through concrete floor slabs in so that post tensioning cables could be run through them in the event that the original slabs were insufficient (design error). i was curious if there were any articles on this procedure or if it has ever been done. i was especially curioius if problems would be encountered during the grouting because of the smooth walls.
thanks
check out our whitepaper library.
a3a,
i gather you mean horizontal coring.
short answer is yes. but they are limited to straight core holes, and you cannot achieve draped holes.
actually, a large strengthening project is happening as i respond to this thread...4" diameter horizontal thru existing beams at 80 feet core length!!! laser guided coring technique with 1/2" tolerance!!! post-tensioning is then placed within the hole and stressed (you may ask why not just use external p-t - it won't fit with the immediate adjacent pipe work etc).
also, smaller diameter horizontal coring techniques have been used on balcony repairs, whereby external access coring is undertaken to the length required (maybe 20 feet or more etc) then high tensile threaded pt bar is inserted and stressed (dead end is established at remote end via "sausage bag" of epoxy, or debond bar over free length etc).
check out the aberdeen group on a publication about concrete coring where they detail the balcony coring/pt project.
re the smoothness of the core hole - we have used sand blasting techniques to roughen up the walls, but you will be suprised how much transfer of load you can achieve provided you remove the coring slurry. we usually undertake some bond tests - grout in a few bars of fixed bond length and load test them with a hydraulic center hole jack.
i must say that as a strengthening technique, external p-t is more common than what i describe above, and somewhat well documented, and more cost effective too!!!
maybe you wish to consider external pt for this project.
good luck.
hth
depending on the % of deficiency, maybe you can consider frp - but it will not help you with any deflection control.
ingenuity, wow that's some core length! given the laser guidance system it sounds on the up and up but expensive as well.
i've recently engineered some anchors for bridge substructure beams (in the short dimensions) and they'd like you to think i was drawing blood from that subcontractor! the first problem was being able to determine the location of reinforcing in the beam in order to avoid it...not happening! the stirrups don't line up from face to face of the beam and they're having to go at it from both sides (reminds me of the cartoon where two contractors are tunneling from two sides and scratching there heads at the obvious offset at the juncture!).
good luck!
thanks ingenuity
you nailed it. though i was just touring this project, it was pretty much what you descibed. coring through a combination of beams, slabs, and columns--except only about 50 feet, a tolerance of 1", and surveyors using very primitive means compared to lazers (piano wire). i am still curious how the lazers were used for the surveying. were they just used to check periodicly if the holes were on target, or were they actually part of the coring setup that "guided" the bits.
q-shake,
there was some "head scratching" on this job too. while coring, they were logging the rebar, plates, trash, and whatever else they encountered as the sleeves came out; and they were finding things that no one knew why they were hitting certian structual elements and at those locations.
i'm still at the entry level stage in my career, and so far it was the largest project i've been on--completely overwhelmed by the shear size, amount of effort, and amount of money, that goes into huge, complex projects. likewise, i was just as overwhelmed by the amount of tension in the people because the project was not going smoothly at all (possible collapse), when the facility should have been in full production already. i guess i was so overwhelmed because i've been on a *small* project that wasn't going smoothly and i can't see how the entire upper echelon hasn't had a heart-attack already. amazing! sorry, had to share it with someone that could appreciate it.
a3a,
have you considered placing the post-tensioning cables under the slab, instead of coring.
i have seen this type of exterior prestressing on steel beams and prestressed concrete tee-beams.
the supporting beams would have to be cored, and the prestressing cable would have to be protected.
aef
__________________
借用达朗贝尔的名言:前进吧,你会得到信心!
[url="http://www.dimcax.com"]几何尺寸与公差标准[/url]
huangyhg离线中   回复时引用此帖
GDT自动化论坛(仅游客可见)
 


主题工具 搜索本主题
搜索本主题:

高级搜索
显示模式

发帖规则
不可以发表新主题
不可以回复主题
不可以上传附件
不可以编辑您的帖子

vB 代码开启
[IMG]代码开启
HTML代码关闭

相似的主题
主题 主题发起者 论坛 回复 最后发表
axial tension in a post-tensioned member huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 02:06 PM
add steel base plate for new column to existing post-tension huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 10:10 AM
about post installed in concrete huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 09:28 AM
6x6 post strength huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 08:55 AM
5 diam post-tension strands huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-06 10:21 PM


所有的时间均为北京时间。 现在的时间是 11:33 PM.


于2004年创办,几何尺寸与公差论坛"致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T | GPS研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量"。免责声明:论坛严禁发布色情反动言论及有关违反国家法律法规内容!情节严重者提供其IP,并配合相关部门进行严厉查处,若內容有涉及侵权,请立即联系我们QQ:44671734。注:此论坛须管理员验证方可发帖。
沪ICP备06057009号-2
更多