几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量  


返回   几何尺寸与公差论坛------致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T (GDT:ASME)|New GPS(ISO)研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量 » 三维空间:产品设计或CAX软件使用 » CAD设计 » 产品功能分析
用户名
密码
注册 帮助 会员 日历 银行 搜索 今日新帖 标记论坛为已读


 
 
主题工具 搜索本主题 显示模式
旧 2009-09-16, 10:38 PM   #1
huangyhg
超级版主
 
huangyhg的头像
 
注册日期: 04-03
帖子: 18592
精华: 36
现金: 249466 标准币
资产: 1080358888 标准币
huangyhg 向着好的方向发展
默认 wood beams with partial steel flitch plate

wood beams with partial steel flitch plate
jeff,
if the beam is not built in at the ends (ie can be treated as simply supported), then the bm and shear throughout the beam is independent of stiffness anyway.
after analysing a typical built-in beam with a uniformly distributed load, and a stiffer section over the centre halfspan, my conclusions are:
if it is built in at one end or at both ends, then the presence of the steel plate will reduce the maximum bending moment in the unreinforced timber sections. (basically because the reduced deflection will reduce the curvature at the built in ends). the maximum shear will be reduced if only one end is built in, and unchanged if built in at both ends.
my guess is that there would be a similar effect for other load distributions.
i don't think that you need have any worries.
thanks for the info. doesn't a combination wood/steel beam usually neglect the wood as the 2 materials are so different in capacities?
so i was thinking that the ends of the steel plate would apply a bending and shear load to the wood beam, which if i re
inspectorjeff,
you ask several questions which i cannot really answer from my own experience. (i have never been close to a beam like yours). so i will limit myself to the basics.
i don't like your pl/3 at all (no offence meant). the maximum bm with a point load p at the centre of a span l is pl/4. for a point load anywhere away from midspan the bm is less.
the "excessive deflection" would not necessarily be associated with high shear at the bearings. any more meaningful answer to that would need a serious structural analysis of the beam (which none of us can do at a distance, particularly if we are not acquainted with your local codes of practice).
perhaps you could get some more valuable answers to your legitimate queries if you tackle the original designer again?
jeff...partial flitching is relatively common. i have run into a few and have designed a few (in your area). you are correct that there is a "change" at the termination of the flitch plate, but the purpose of selecting a place to terminate the plate (other than at the ends), is to select a point where the influence is minimal.
the plate, itself, does not "inflict" any additional bm into the wood. it does; however, create a "step function" in the shear and moment diagrams at the terminous. you indicated the intent of the design engineer was to reduce deflection. what the flitch plate does is flatten the deflection curve.
jeff,
fitch plates are reasonably common in domestic construction where a beam span is to be increased without significantly changing the profile eg when an intermediate support is removed. timber is often strong enough but not stiff enough. steel being 10-20x stiffer that timber, a 5mm steel plate of comparable depth added to each side of a timber beam can be equivalent to doubling or more the beam thickness in timber.
if the beam is statically determinate, i don't see how there would be a step function in the shear and moment diagrams. there will be one in the m/ei diagram of course, that is where the stiffening effect comes from.
on another note, the effectiveness of a partial length flitch plate is limited by the horizontal shear transfers between the plate and the lumber. the original enquiry did not specify these connections. what approach do the other respondents use to analyze this condition.
personally, i prefer to ensure that the flitch plate is the full length of the span and bears fully on the supports.
inspector jeff (visitor)15 jul 02 20:05
my pl/3 referred to the 2 spot loads on the wood beam coming from the ends of the flitch plate.
dist ld of 100plf
conc. ld of 10k
12' flitch !< 8'>
---'----------'---
^ 20' ^
2-12" x 13/4 lvl + 2-3/8" stl. flitch plates
ending 4' from each bearing point.
redhead...thanks for the slap up side the head!! you are correct! i was thinking stress plots (bending and shear), as i use these a lot for determining ends of gussets, knee braces, flitch plates, etc., ....but shear and moment diagram came off the fingers!
ron
jeff, where was the 10,000 lb conc load applied at?
are the ends ridgidly supported?
is the top or bottom flange lateraly supported?
ron:
you are welcome! we all have these moments. my excuse is they are "senior moments".cheers!
sorry for the delayed answer.the 10k load was about 5' from the right bearing. beam only supported on top surface by 2' of second flr hall. i thought that the steel would take the entire load and at the terminus dump it into the wood beam.
jeff
__________________
借用达朗贝尔的名言:前进吧,你会得到信心!
[url="http://www.dimcax.com"]几何尺寸与公差标准[/url]
huangyhg离线中   回复时引用此帖
GDT自动化论坛(仅游客可见)
 


主题工具 搜索本主题
搜索本主题:

高级搜索
显示模式

发帖规则
不可以发表新主题
不可以回复主题
不可以上传附件
不可以编辑您的帖子

vB 代码开启
[IMG]代码开启
HTML代码关闭

相似的主题
主题 主题发起者 论坛 回复 最后发表
reated wood nailer on structural steel huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-16 03:39 PM
slab punshing shear and steel cap plate huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-15 11:27 PM
flitch plate beam question huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-09 12:35 PM
beams braced with a welded flat steel plate huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 03:12 PM
4 story wood building with steel beams and columns at the fi huangyhg 产品功能分析 0 2009-09-07 08:45 AM


所有的时间均为北京时间。 现在的时间是 01:04 PM.


于2004年创办,几何尺寸与公差论坛"致力于产品几何量公差标准GD&T | GPS研究/CAD设计/CAM加工/CMM测量"。免责声明:论坛严禁发布色情反动言论及有关违反国家法律法规内容!情节严重者提供其IP,并配合相关部门进行严厉查处,若內容有涉及侵权,请立即联系我们QQ:44671734。注:此论坛须管理员验证方可发帖。
沪ICP备06057009号-2
更多