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the columns of the capitol
i don't remember in what of the roman kings' or republican rome point the roman people had to make clear that they wanted all the laws to be complied with be published for all to see at the columns at the capitol. hence, some 2300 years ago, the people was no more to be judged by the "secret of the law" rule, under which they were judged in mysteric terms they were prejudiced not to be entitled to know or conversant to consider.
2009.
we are still trying to get to see the standing laws. by reference, we are made subject to the arbitrion of private parties and to pay to know the rules, and also to re-pay for public services we have already paid for.
good luck.
heh,
interesting letter. the federal us government requires activities (such as construction) to meet certain standards, such as aci 318 concrete code, ansi standards, and many....many others.
this group, public.resource.org is asking for copies of all of these referenced standards to be made public, free of charge, by the government. they back this up by showing how some of these documents cost quite a bit of money (>$1000) and are very difficult to find - even in public libraries across the country.
i.e. - government references a costly standard as law - therefore ipso facto the freedom of information act requires the gov't to produce free copies of that law.
while i appreciate their stance on this, i fear that free access to the aci concrete code would mean a huge decrease in funding for aci and thus a limit on the growth of new aci code provisions, size of their code, number of code updates....wait...i kinda like that idea.


don't get as sure on lesser number of pages. govts have many secretaries that know how to use wordprocessors and the tide for more and more legislation remains uncurbed. furthermore they have the magic wand ole counts of middle age had, emission of money and sizing (seizing?) taxes. heh, we here are taxed to seizure. as tabary would put in the califah haroum el poussah, no more word jokes. my word.

i've wondered when this was going to happen.
citizens have a right to know what the law is.

the question is neither irrelevant in cost. a subscription for the entire actual monthly actualization to the une (aenor's) (akin to iso's) norms in cdroms costed maybe ten years ago around $45000 a year. maybe $9000 of these are referenced in norms to be used by a structural engineer or architect, so say $9000 are clipped off their earnings. this may be unbearable cost to the average professional. it is also a nag to true competence in the field (just one more). plus, in what they are thinking for? we are not maybe supposed to have them but we must apply them. what reminds me of the hilarity that produces the remark by some tv news man reading with pride that the proceedings of such and such trial are going by now over 500000 pages; superman judge, then with his supersight...
just not to cause deception for those wanting to see the columns of the capitol (u.s., some of the original ones)
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2009.
we are still trying to get to see the standing laws. by reference, we are made subject to the arbitrion of private parties and to pay to know the rules, and also to re-pay for public services we have already paid for.
good luck.
heh,
interesting letter. the federal us government requires activities (such as construction) to meet certain standards, such as aci 318 concrete code, ansi standards, and many....many others.
this group, public.resource.org is asking for copies of all of these referenced standards to be made public, free of charge, by the government. they back this up by showing how some of these documents cost quite a bit of money (>$1000) and are very difficult to find - even in public libraries across the country.
i.e. - government references a costly standard as law - therefore ipso facto the freedom of information act requires the gov't to produce free copies of that law.
while i appreciate their stance on this, i fear that free access to the aci concrete code would mean a huge decrease in funding for aci and thus a limit on the growth of new aci code provisions, size of their code, number of code updates....wait...i kinda like that idea.

interesting - if you go to the
don't get as sure on lesser number of pages. govts have many secretaries that know how to use wordprocessors and the tide for more and more legislation remains uncurbed. furthermore they have the magic wand ole counts of middle age had, emission of money and sizing (seizing?) taxes. heh, we here are taxed to seizure. as tabary would put in the califah haroum el poussah, no more word jokes. my word.

i've wondered when this was going to happen.
citizens have a right to know what the law is.

the question is neither irrelevant in cost. a subscription for the entire actual monthly actualization to the une (aenor's) (akin to iso's) norms in cdroms costed maybe ten years ago around $45000 a year. maybe $9000 of these are referenced in norms to be used by a structural engineer or architect, so say $9000 are clipped off their earnings. this may be unbearable cost to the average professional. it is also a nag to true competence in the field (just one more). plus, in what they are thinking for? we are not maybe supposed to have them but we must apply them. what reminds me of the hilarity that produces the remark by some tv news man reading with pride that the proceedings of such and such trial are going by now over 500000 pages; superman judge, then with his supersight...
just not to cause deception for those wanting to see the columns of the capitol (u.s., some of the original ones)

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